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. you would not have had it and not a series of civil rights pieces of sieve legislation pass given the way this senate operates. >> it's about leadership. david? >> i agree. >> on both sides of pennsylvania avenue -- >> we have had arguments on this show before about barack obama. i'm disappointed in him. i think he wasn't strong enough. i agree with, sadly, with maureen's column. >> i go back to what an ambassador from the middle east told me in year one about president obama. i thought he was extraordinarily moving at the state of the union. but said from the mistake they make, richard, i'm sure you heard this a lot. mistake they make at the white house in twine they blebelieve speech is the end instead of the speech the mean to get to the end. you start there. but you have to do the lyndon johnson, the george w. bush which is -- >> you think they are. the most salient fact in maureen's column is the person they are sending up to the hill is practically invisible. they think they are bending ears and doing politics but it's so ineffectual the result is what the result was. >> i'v
, the digital age and your civil rights, and now what are you willing to give up because of surveillance. >> other people were misidentified because of our 8,000 -- >> and placed on the front page of a newspaper. >> absolutely. >> the big point is, every horrific event done by a small group of people will be enabled by technology going forward. >> absolutely, it is our new normal. >> the genie is out of the bottle. >>> a related story, as boston tried to get back to reality and get back on its feet after the bombing saturday there was a game at fenway park and with 35,000 or so in attendance, watching on tv, david ortiz, one of the stars of the team gets up and on microphone tries to rally the crowd and this is what happened. >> this is our [ bleep ] city. and nobody gonna take away our dictate our freedom. stay strong. >> was that appropriate? >> of course it's not with the kids in the stand. having said that, all of our kids hear this word. this is a quality, decent, passionate charitable man. i'd rather have a not so decent man who speaks perfectly. >> ladies? >> i thought it was inte
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